A conversation about gender roles and how God designed us.
Wednesday, December 17, 2008
Hip Hop with a Complementarian Flavor
Shai Linne is one of my favorite Christian rappers. Recently, he has released a song called "Work It Out" which celebrates biblical womanhood. You can listen to a little bit of it on the Girl Talk blog.
I was appalled. Let's have a little hip hop about men who disrespect their wives in public. Since women are routinely injured for "disrespecting their man" I would hope that the association with violence is obvious and this kind of rap would be soundly dismissed.
The whole thing. Who is picking up the broken pieces in your neck fo the woods. Think of how hard women are hit for not "respecting" their man, for not "repenting" enough.
Can you even for one second imagine that some women get shwacked every day or two of their life for not obeying these words every instant. Do you have any idea how impossible second by second obedience is? Do you have any idea how many women taste the dirt on the floor?
Please, show some discrimination here. This is so painful. That song needs a PTSS warning on it. I would at least hope that you would warn away any women you know who have been hit out of pity.
Sue, I am not trying to be insensative here, but I'm not seeing this song speaking of abuse. The lyrics are speaking about womanhood and how a wife should respect her husband. I don't think there is anything unbibilical with a wife respecting her husband (or a husband respecting his wife).
Please hear me (or read me)...I am against abuse of all kinds. It is horrible for a man to abuse a woman in the name of biblical manhood or roles or submission. This action goes against God.
I don't think that is what Shai Linne is rapping about though. Thoughts?
I'm with Sue, that was a little disturbing, to hear a man say about his wife "she would never disrespect her man in public and if she does, she repents, Ha!"
I can see how a wife like this would be many a weak man's dream, but in the end the kind of 'complimentarianism' that SGM preaches and teaches produces cold and distant marriages where the husband's wish is his wife's command. Been there, done that, living in the freedom (and much healthier marriage, yes my husband would agree) of the true Gospel now!
I do believe that male and female compliment one another, just don't believe in how certain segments of the church teach this is worked out...
I think there may be a difference of opinion here about what it means "to disrespect." My understanding is that it means "to belittle" - to insult, make fun of, to pointedly devalue. (It's interesting to think that, according to Shaunti Feldhahn’s research in the book For Women Only, most men don't perceive much difference between respect and love.)
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I was appalled. Let's have a little hip hop about men who disrespect their wives in public. Since women are routinely injured for "disrespecting their man" I would hope that the association with violence is obvious and this kind of rap would be soundly dismissed.
Sue,
I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused...was it something from the song that appalled you?
God bless,
mike
The whole thing. Who is picking up the broken pieces in your neck fo the woods. Think of how hard women are hit for not "respecting" their man, for not "repenting" enough.
Can you even for one second imagine that some women get shwacked every day or two of their life for not obeying these words every instant. Do you have any idea how impossible second by second obedience is? Do you have any idea how many women taste the dirt on the floor?
Please, show some discrimination here. This is so painful. That song needs a PTSS warning on it. I would at least hope that you would warn away any women you know who have been hit out of pity.
Sue,
I am not trying to be insensative here, but I'm not seeing this song speaking of abuse. The lyrics are speaking about womanhood and how a wife should respect her husband. I don't think there is anything unbibilical with a wife respecting her husband (or a husband respecting his wife).
Please hear me (or read me)...I am against abuse of all kinds. It is horrible for a man to abuse a woman in the name of biblical manhood or roles or submission. This action goes against God.
I don't think that is what Shai Linne is rapping about though. Thoughts?
God bless,
mike
I'm with Sue, that was a little disturbing, to hear a man say about his wife "she would never disrespect her man in public and if she does, she repents, Ha!"
I can see how a wife like this would be many a weak man's dream, but in the end the kind of 'complimentarianism' that SGM preaches and teaches produces cold and distant marriages where the husband's wish is his wife's command. Been there, done that, living in the freedom (and much healthier marriage, yes my husband would agree) of the true Gospel now!
I do believe that male and female compliment one another, just don't believe in how certain segments of the church teach this is worked out...
God bless.
I think there may be a difference of opinion here about what it means "to disrespect." My understanding is that it means "to belittle" - to insult, make fun of, to pointedly devalue. (It's interesting to think that, according to Shaunti Feldhahn’s research in the book For Women Only, most men don't perceive much difference between respect and love.)
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